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i know wayne lapierre. he has always been extremely pleasant to me. we have a good relationship. so i am not here to demean the organization. >> not there to demean the organization. he has been a benefactor of campaign contributions from them. the nra spending in 2012, just to show everybody, $1 million in direct contributions to elected leaders, $25 million in outside spending, $6 million in federal lobbying, a total of $32 million. is harry reid one of the bigger obstacles in getting this to the floor on the senate? >> i wouldn't say he's the biggest obstacle. i think harry reid is a difficult position. he wants obviously something to move forward that helps address part of the problem and i think if you look at 2014 and you look at the midterm elections, look at key states where democrats have to defend, red states, alaska, west virginia is an open seat, arkansas, these are rural states where the democrats have a different perspective on gun rights and have a better relationship, if you will, with the nra. that being said, i think everyone has come to terms that something nee
i know wayne lapierre. he has always been extremely pleasant to me. we have a good relationship. so i am not here to demean the organization. >> not there to demean the organization. he has been a benefactor of campaign contributions from them. the nra spending in 2012, just to show everybody, $1 million in direct contributions to elected leaders, $25 million in outside spending, $6 million in federal lobbying, a total of $32 million. is harry reid one of the bigger obstacles in getting...
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>> wayne lapierre's own words, no loopholes. we have universal background checks. 91% of americans, republican party in washington, d.c., support this. 91% of americans, and the question is, mika, are they going to continue to be run off the end of the cliff by extremists that make up the hard right of their party that destroys their opportunities to win national elections? this is very simple. by the way, people say oh, joe, he's a -- no, i'm not. i still believe what i've always believed ideologically. i just have always believed in winning. >> yeah. >> maybe it's because i go to university of alabama. we like to win at the university of alabama. we believe in winning. we believe you don't get the ball and run it into the other guy's end zone. you try to win games. this republican party is chasing the most extreme element in their own party through the primary processes, and that's why harry reid right now is running the senate. >> but there are -- i mean, you saw the front page of the business section of "the new york times"
>> wayne lapierre's own words, no loopholes. we have universal background checks. 91% of americans, republican party in washington, d.c., support this. 91% of americans, and the question is, mika, are they going to continue to be run off the end of the cliff by extremists that make up the hard right of their party that destroys their opportunities to win national elections? this is very simple. by the way, people say oh, joe, he's a -- no, i'm not. i still believe what i've always...
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you have the ad with wayne lapierre then and now. what can we expect from the nra in response to that? i know you're not an insider behind the scenes, hogan, but how do you come back on tape saying one thing a few years ago and then stumbling through an answer now when it arguably is most needed? >> right. well, michael was right. that might be the only thing that could pass in this. there's democrats, obviously, pro-gun democrats like kay hagan in north carolina and mark pryor in arkansas probably a path of resistance for the president on some of these issues but the background check goes in to exactly what i was talking about. the background check albeit cumbersome for those that follow the law does have somewhat of a reputation of stopping criminals from getting guns. there will always be an element of citizenry criminals that go around the types of laws because they don't care about them in the first place. >> but the nra once supported it. >> you're right. >> mark, the hot water's not just on the nra. you have the mayor of minne
you have the ad with wayne lapierre then and now. what can we expect from the nra in response to that? i know you're not an insider behind the scenes, hogan, but how do you come back on tape saying one thing a few years ago and then stumbling through an answer now when it arguably is most needed? >> right. well, michael was right. that might be the only thing that could pass in this. there's democrats, obviously, pro-gun democrats like kay hagan in north carolina and mark pryor in...
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this weekend, nra president wayne lapierre insisted universal background checks will not work and claimed the president is against the second amendment. >> during the campaign when he said to people i will not take away your rifle, shotgun, hand gun, they leafletted the country with flyers like this, obama's not going to take your gun, obama will protect gun rights, and now he's trying to take away all three. i don't think you can trust -- >> senate majority leader harry reid says he hopes gun legislation will come out of the judiciary committee but he was noncommittal over whether he would sign an assault weapons ban. >> would you vote for it? >> frankly, she knows, i haven't read her amendment, i didn't vote for the assault weapons last time because it didn't make sense but i'll take a look at it. >> i will bring in "washington post" columnist ruth marcus and senior staff writer for "the hill" alex bolton. good monday morning to both of you. ruth, this is the president's first big sell to the american people. what do you think he needs to say here? >> well, the president said he was goi
this weekend, nra president wayne lapierre insisted universal background checks will not work and claimed the president is against the second amendment. >> during the campaign when he said to people i will not take away your rifle, shotgun, hand gun, they leafletted the country with flyers like this, obama's not going to take your gun, obama will protect gun rights, and now he's trying to take away all three. i don't think you can trust -- >> senate majority leader harry reid says...
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lapierre supporting a background check. here is a little bit of that ad. >> the nra once supported background checks. >> we think it's reasonable to provide mandatory instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. no loopholes anywhere for anyone. >> all right. i'll admit i need quick answers here. can a southern republican vote for the background check bill and get re-elected? >> a licensed dealer at a gun show already does a background check. that's already going on. what we're talking about is antique and special collectors and private sales. i think that's very difficult to legislate properly without killing gun show. >> there is a rural split almost more than anything else. urban politics are more supportive of this idea. >> yes. but i think both the southern republican and the urban republican should all be voting for universal background checks. look, connecticut was a game changer. we need to understand that. the gun issue is here. it's not going away. every other day, we are hearing about a tr
lapierre supporting a background check. here is a little bit of that ad. >> the nra once supported background checks. >> we think it's reasonable to provide mandatory instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. no loopholes anywhere for anyone. >> all right. i'll admit i need quick answers here. can a southern republican vote for the background check bill and get re-elected? >> a licensed dealer at a gun show already does a background check....
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. >> so that's wayne lapierre, head of the nra, saying something different back then than he is saying today about universal background checks. what's the response you've heard and do you think that something that people didn't know? >> people love that ad because it reminded them that checking everyone's background for guns is common sense. we check 100% of the people who get on a plane. we shouldn't check 60% of the people who get a gun. the nra believed that. the nra should agree with that. and the nra should not be in charge of this debate. >> thank you so much, mayor. again, president obama visiting your city today. appreciate your time. we'll be right back. have diabe. i felt like my feet were going to sleep. it was like pins and needles sticking in your toes and in your feet. it progressed from there to burning like i was walking on hot coals. at that point, i knew i had to do something. when i went to see my doctor, she chose lyrica. once i started taking the lyrica, the pain started subsiding. [ female announcer ] it's known that diabetes damages nerves. lyrica is fda approved
. >> so that's wayne lapierre, head of the nra, saying something different back then than he is saying today about universal background checks. what's the response you've heard and do you think that something that people didn't know? >> people love that ad because it reminded them that checking everyone's background for guns is common sense. we check 100% of the people who get on a plane. we shouldn't check 60% of the people who get a gun. the nra believed that. the nra should agree...
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and in this ad it features the nra's executive vice president wayne lapierre in a video back from 1999 in which he said that he supports universal background checks on gun purchases. but last week, during a cnn town hall on gun control, the nra made it very, very clear that the group's leaders do not support universal background checks. listen to that. >> there is a cost to this kind of basically bureaucracy, why should a law abiding citizen who isn't a problem, who is not a criminal, should have to go through additional background checks? why should we spend scarce law enforcement resources spending money on background checks of law abiding people who aren't the problem? >> that was sandy froman, an nra board member. we can't talk about the gun debate, of course, without showing this photo. take a look. this was released saturday. white house releasing this photograph of the president using a shotgun. part of skeet shooting up at camp david, an effort to show the president has, quote/unquote, profound respect for america's hunting traditions as he told the new republic in an interview
and in this ad it features the nra's executive vice president wayne lapierre in a video back from 1999 in which he said that he supports universal background checks on gun purchases. but last week, during a cnn town hall on gun control, the nra made it very, very clear that the group's leaders do not support universal background checks. listen to that. >> there is a cost to this kind of basically bureaucracy, why should a law abiding citizen who isn't a problem, who is not a criminal,...